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  • Vladimir

    9 months ago


    Just got back from a week long 5,000 miles roundtrip. I figured a way how to drive 2,000 miles in 48 hours, yet with legal speeds....



    Spent 6 days watching thousands of food billboards while drinking 1-3 days old juice stored in a cooler.Very painful...



    But, 30 pounds off after 13 days of juicing, so as much as it sucks, it sure works :-)



    It's awesome being at home and drinking fresh juice! It's mindboggling how disgusting the juice becomes on day three...



    I was really brave (read: stupid) yesterday and today. I entered Subway and McDonald's , ordered the meat for my Husky, but somehow resisted the incredible smells, after all the billboard commercials :-) That girl has no shame, she's stuffing her face with fresh chicken meat while I drink stinking 3-day juice :-)))))))



    I wonder if I can make it till day 20....



    I just kept weighing myself tonight at home, as this diet is so crazy! 30 pounds down in less than 2 weeks. Hard to wrap my head around this. For sure more than I realistically expected...



    It probably helped that I only drank 32-48 oz of juice per day while driving (small cold storage) and was simply starving the whole week...

  • Soose

    9 months ago

    Welcome home, Vladimir. What a trip! You must have been starving!

    Feeling it now, lighter, more agile?

    How about a photo of your Husky Girl? :)

  • Vladimir

    9 months ago

    Hi, Soose. Thanks, though not yet sure about more agile. My Honey is keeping me plenty agile already. Between 1.5 - 2.5 hrs of walks each day, she demands a fast&furious playtime after a nap. She takes quite a few of those :)

    I'm still as dizzy as I was since day one - standing up from bed requires 10 seconds till earth stops spinning. Picking stuff up from floor is a recipe for disaster. I literally don't see for few seconds...

    I haven't exercised after day 3, as I am utterly exhausted without meat protein. But, after 13 days, I am getting used to being a vegetable. Thank god I am doing this fulltime.

    But, last 3 days I fo rgot to take my blood pressure pill, yet had zero symptoms, so as expected, blood pressure is normalizing.

    Can you upload a pic via forum? Or it has to be hosted somewhere? I'm warning you, though - she is dangerously cute at 18 months :)

  • Soose

    9 months ago

    Vladimir, on my screen in the box where you type your post, do you see the B and I for bold and italics -- on the little grayed out bar right above it? There's also next a picture frame, a video symbol, and then a way to insert links. Use the picture frame to upload a photo from your computer. Sometimes the site will let me cut and paste a photo but sometimes nothing will work. And sometimes, it sets a flag to say I've exceeded 10K and after that, all posts are off until I log off and back on. It doesn't reset when I remove the photo.

  • Soose

    9 months ago

    Vladimir, with the proviso that we get incomplete info on a forum like this...

    Sounds almost like you're on a water only fast, only you're not getting to the point where the weakness goes away (when the switch happens with the liver or whatever it is).

    Have you tried drinking a LOT of juice in a day or for several days to see if the weakness goes away? Joe's recommended juice is 4 to 6 that area 16 to 20 oz per day. That's a half to whole US gallon per day.

    I'd not want to drive on a trip while weak from fasting -- you must have a lot more stamina than I do.

    Also, Joe is clear that a reboot can include solid foods if they're good and healthy. I think the rule is anything you'd juice?

    FWIW. All of our bodies are different.

  • Vladimir

    9 months ago

    I wouldn't call it a wateronly, although it is definitely a cross between that and juice only. Probably much closer to wateronly :)

    I fhink I only had one day of 4-5 juices, the rest is 1-3, averaging 2 juices per day, each being 24 oz.About 0.65 liter each.

    From what I read here, I gather the constant hunger would disappear if I drank a gallon a day.

    But, 30 pounds in less than two weeks? Hell, I will gladly suffer some more, till I hit plateu :-)

    As for the stamina, I am a winter hiker who hopes to upgrade to full-blown winter mountaneering this winter. I can hike 16-18 hours up snowy mountain in a day. But, last time I was doing that I was 310 pounds, and now am 265.

    I reckon the body will notice the 45 pound difference, though i lost 15 pounds in mean time to 295 before juicing.

  • Vladimir

    9 months ago

    I just realized that the 6 days spent in a car (no motels, just taking naps in car), driving 18-20 hours a day, while drinking stinking disgusting 2-3 days old juice, have actually made me appreciate the fresh, foamy and great tasting juice much more.

    Thus, I reckon, I should be able to push for one more week and target 20 days. What if I could get to the 250 range? It doesn't sound so insane now, as it did two weeks ago when i was almost 300...

  • Soose

    9 months ago

    Vladimir, awesome at the mountaineering. Whew.

    There are others here who have been really studying the fasting info. They seem to be taking a break from the list right at the moment. There's a Dr. Fung - have you looked into him? Wrote a book on fasting or maybe more than one. People have been really reading his stuff and adjusting a lot of their previous ideas.

    Maybe you could look into intermittent fasting which can be a way of life and sustain your metabolism -- don't want your metabolism shutting down or whatever they call it. The most I was on water fasting was 9 days; it did wonders for me and at that time I lost 24 lbs in 18 days (refeeding by then), rebooted my immune system and fixed my metabolism. The doc said we could have gone a lot longer. We were very weak the entire time and I would not have tried driving a distance. (And I did regain the weight on the scale initially as I started eating again but I did not increase in size any and then that regained weight dropped back off quickly and I continued to lose as long as I stayed with a good food Vegan way of eating.)

    I think the juicing is a way of providing the body with a flood of nutrients without cutting the digestive system back on, without stopping the detox and rebooting going on in the body. For me, it's not all about weight loss. The body has to have those nutrients and phytonutrients for cell repair and optimum operation. And it's going to be detoxing and I don't want that stuff staying in my body so my goal is to keep my digestive system moving.

    I do plan to look into the intermittent fasting and I think that's why my husband's reboot has worked so well for him this time. Inadvertently, he hit upon the salads on gym days and juice only in between. He does drink the recommended amount of juice, skipping only when he has a salad. So he'll have a day and a half or two or sometimes 4 days between salads on juice only. I didn't realize it until listening to some of the people here that he was intermittent fasting. It's fixed his metabo slowdown big time.

  • KarenWasHere

    9 months ago
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  • KarenWasHere

    9 months ago

    @Vladimir

    AMAZING! I am watching your post and they are making me want to do this more and more. Thanks for posting your story and being awesome! If you have done nothing else today, you have inspired me! I thank you for that.

    PS. I drove from AZ to Georgia one time without stopping except for gas and to do the bathroom breaks. It was interesting. I learned one thing. Texas is too big! :-)

  • Vladimir

    9 months ago

    Karen: I am very glad my reboot progress is inspirational to you! Just make sure you're ready when you pull the plug on juicing.

    As for driving, I used to do the classic motel way of driving across country, but it was extremely inefficient and expensive for me. My sleep comes in ways, separated by 3-4. hours, so often I would sleep at 5-6 am, leaving 5 hours of sleep, but killing 10-11 hours on the whole motel search, checkin.out,etc.

    This would leave ~12 hours for driving. And you would hit both commute times with worst congestion. Can't get very far in 3 days if you dri ve when 90% of people drive...

    But, if you flip your sleeping schedule so that you are up at night, when roads are empty, and get short naps in car whenever your body tells you, it results in those 2,000 miles over 48 hours, incl. sleep, yet still legal speeds. Much more comfortable than driving sleep deprived from motels.

    Also, RedBull has phenomenal impact for up to 5-6 hours, when you just woke up from brief nap. It never ever worked that long for me previously, because I was constantly sleep deprived from hotels.Forget about red bull on second day. Now, I had RedBull each day of driving and it actually works each day for many hours.

    Juicing means you don't have to burn time with fastfood either, you just drink it while driving, so I had days when I drove for over 20 hours, which as you just experienced in Te xas, is priceless on coast-to-coast trips.

    Best thing, you don't need 3 days to recover from those trips. You're at 100% on next day.Wish i knew that 2 decades ago..

  • Soose

    9 months ago


    PLEASE DON'T FLAG ME THIS IS NOT SPAM...



    I've been exploring, following links. Have ya'll seen the workout videos actually on this site? I found them from the diabetes page on this site...



    https://www.rebootwithjoe.com/fitness/workouts/



    Low-intensity and high-intensity, pretty simple.



    I've been dabbling in the Anti-aging stretches by Miranda Esmonde-White since the beginning of the reboot. She's got a series of 8 or 9 videos on youtube showing her routines that go with the books. I think she's a previous ballerina and I saw her first on a PBS program, one of those they do during fundraisers. Evidently she's had a long-running stretching program on other PBS stations for something like 12 yrs. But ours doesn't carry her. So I checked her Aging Backwards book out of the library and then found her videos that go with the book on youtube.



    Her point is that as we age, it's agility, balance, and flexibility that we need to develop and hang onto. Here's a link to the playlist. Aging Backwards Introduction




    PLEASE DON'T FLAG ME THIS IS NOT SPAM... Soose.




  • Soose

    9 months ago


    The answer on the 80/20 rule from an actual page on RebootWithJoe.com



    The 80/20 Golden Reboot Rule: What Does It Mean? By: Claire Georgiou, Reboot Naturopath, B.HSc ND





    SunnyRain's method seems to be what they mean. I found this by going back out to Google and googling for "rebootwithjoe.com 80 20" or somesuch. Search here does not work for me but this is twice I've found something official I needed with a google, long as it's been there long enough to be crawled by google in the past. (It won't find new people, for me.)

  • Soose

    9 months ago


    Okay, juice buds. What did you juice today?



    I was in a real rush first thing this morning, because I made salads for everyone first. We only had the mostly green 80/20 watermelon juice for the day. (Lots of cukes added to bring the ratio towards veg; I also trim off a lot of the red fruit and pack it in chunks for my son or neighbors -- don't need the sugar in our juice right now. I'm going to explore other veg than cukes to add to watermelon, maybe more nutritious veg.. But while watermelons are available and cheap, we need the volume for my family of 3! )



    So I started out with a cantelope that was on the edge of being past its life... made a smoothie of it for my husband this morning. Now that I know how to quickly peel cantelopes, that's a breeze, just about the fastest thing I can make. It really froths up -- no time to press it. But he's "after the reboot" and some cantelope fiber in one of his juices is okay for him.



    Also: Packed him two of the watermelon juices -- one with a lot of lemon and some protein powder added. Then, started a batch of carrot/cuke/celery, just got far enough to bottle 16 oz and launch him out the door with his juices and lunch. lol Mission accomplished! It was a rush! (I took the evening off rather than taking care of this yesterday. Needed a mental break and took it! )



    After my juicing and biking (did my 45 mins, yeah!), I got back to that kitchen and created what turned out to be 5 quarts of a juice: the rest of the 5lbs carrots - 2/3 of a large cantelope - 1 or 2 cukes (don't remember) - the rest of 2 bunches of celery - 3 small golden beet roots -- and a large bunch of rainbow chard stems. (I am saving the greens for a green juice but I have decided I don't like colored chard stems turning my green juices red.)



    3 of those quarts were from juicing. 2 qts from pressing the pulp. (Working on improvements to my pressing operation; it was easier today.)



    YYWV -- Your YIELD WILL Vary. LOL (My old Breville like juicer does not have a great yield - very wet pulp. I can't throw that away! But I have a very expensive juicer and it gives me wet pulp, too! So I use the cheap one which is faster, then press. )



    Feels good to have good juice in the fridge! Tomorrow I'll likely make a green juice. Cleaning out the fridge. And shopping.



    [ I also had soup and salad for lunch, as I'm transitioning back to WFPB right now. Not juice only currently. That's going well. Feeling good! I badly need to try some new salad dressing recipes. Not overly fond of the balsamic I made last, though my husband has a commercial balsamic he likes, fat/sugar free, acceptable salt. I keep forgetting I can make fresh salsa with tomatoes/scallions/cukes/lime. Just something to wet the veggies down. ]

  • jools

    9 months ago


    Hi Soose & Rand, thank you for your invaluable advice. I struggled a bit but when I did finish the 3 day juice I continued eating much healthier than I have for a couple of years so I'm not too disappointed. I started another juice fast, this is day 2 and 5pm in England so halfway through I guess, although I definitely felt more than lightheaded earlier, good job I was sat down. I''m in this for the long haul so I'm going to try and finish this juice fast and then decide if I can carry on juice only or by having a juice in the morning, a smoothie for lunch and a healthy main meal in the evening. I know that switching lunch for smoothie will help me when I get back to work and I have really enjoyed the mornings with hot lemon water and juice. I want this to be enjoyable and to establish healthy eating and the few cravings I've had have been for vegetables or fruit rather than chocolate and biscuits. That might slow down weightloss somewhat but I don't want to lose it only to put it back on (like I have every other time). Thanks for the humous tip Soosie I'll definitely give it a try and let you know how it goes. Love Jools x

  • Soose

    9 months ago


    @RM, where were we talking about the fructose and the 80/20 rule and watermelon? I scrolled back a few pages and could not find it on the groups. I posted on Happy Juicing.

  • Leslie

    9 months ago

    Renee Marie is on a water fast you may want to try sending her a message privately that way she will see it when she checks the site for PM's

  • Soose

    9 months ago

    Thanks, Leslie. I'm good. :) Will send her a message. I know she's not around on this site every day right now. Partially was just letting others who were following the 80/20 and the watermelon questions that I ran an experiment to see just what ratio my watermelon was (the way I juice it with 1/2" fruit on the rind). That's what I put over on the other Happy group. lol Next, I'm going to take one of Joe's recipes like Mean Green at some point and do the same, see what ratio it comes out at.

  • Soose

    9 months ago


    Morning, Sunshiners! This is my motivation for myself today:



    I just have to DO it.




  • Soose

    9 months ago


    Morning, Sunshine's! :) I'm waiting on dawn here. Woke up too early. We cleaned the garage shelves under my den stairs all day Saturday into the evening, and I'm itchy. So I think I'm going to get a head start on juicing to use the time. I can at least clean carrots without waking anyone.



    First step is inventorying the fridge...

    -- I think we have one 32oz bottle of carrot juice but we may have broached that bottle in the evening.

    -- And there's the large back-up bottle of Suja, also broached.

    -- I do have a supply of ginger root juice -- made it for guests Friday night and they liked the homemade ginger ale too! And I do have some seltzer water to make ginger ale. (Important for Sunday's -- I'll have no worries about facing temptation today over at the soda fountain at my husband's office.)



    Possibilities:

    -- a thin green smoothie for breakfast? ( spinach-banana-peach-pineapple-limes + protein + flax).

    -- And maybe watermelon rind (maybe this with protein instead); that's good and fast to produce.

    -- And I want to make some carrot-beet-celery-cuke juice today. I may just use the juicer and store the pulp for tomorrow morning to press. That didn't work badly last time. Or my husband would operate the press when he gets up.

    -- And I can use the beet greens for a green lemonade.



    I've been adding even more celery and cucumber to the carrot lately, to cut sweetness levels. Something in that carrot and beet juice really feels good to my system! I think the beets are really good for me, but I don't get the same feeling from the golden beets as the red, so maybe that part is psychological.



    I do pay attention when something like beets -- or red bell pepper -- just seem very enticing. I think there's a reason my body is craving something like that, some deficit nutritionally.



    We're eating salads, too. Need to make up more basic mix; not enough to get thru today. (I have Lacinato kale, cabbage, purple cabbage, parsley, brussels sprouts, carrots -- all need to be shredded or slivered. Will check and make sure I am not missing any other greens in the fridge. I know we have spinach and a nice bunch of chard for juicing. And some lettuces? )



    Enough rambling from me! Juice ON! (And if you're eating WFPB now, meet Leslie and me over on the Plant Based Eating after the Reboot group, please.)

  • Rand Newman

    9 months ago


    Sorry Jools my autocorrect spelled juuls.i posted a comment below ..

  • Rand Newman

    9 months ago


    Hi Everyone! I’m new to your group but no newbie to juice cleanses and reboots. Best guess first one 25 plus years ago. Living in the Florida Keys we are surrounded with some of the best restaurants imaginable. Their are literally 38 restaurants within 10 minutes of my home. Many we hit regularly by boat. Ya better know how to zig after all that zagging with incredible foods and pina coladas. I’ve done cleanses in excess of 90 days and the hardest part is getting started especially the first 2 to 5 days, depending on how well I prepared before full blown juicing. Eating salads or gorging on a pizza as If I’m walking the green mile and it’s my last meal.



    The current juice fast started 8 days ago and I’ve dropped 15.2 lbs. I’m a bigger guy so I am use to bigger losses early on. A great metaphor I learned from Tony Robbins, ‘’Am I cleansing or clogging’ when you think of what we are doing. There is no such thing of doing this Perfectly, we all have our moments where we zag, just zig right back. And when your cleanse is over think that when your about to eat something ask yourself is this cleansing and nourishing or am I clogging my arteries. Because as an expert on zigzagging back n forth, nothing taste as good as healthy and vibrant feels is my incantation while cleansing! Jeez, maybe I should follow my own advise????

  • Soose

    9 months ago

    25 years! Wow! Congrats on your 15.2 lbs, Rand! Good luck with this reboot!

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