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Exhaustion/fatigue

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Posted by carmena on 4 years ago Hi, I'm just wondering if there are any other rebooters that went into the reboot with exhaustion/fatigue. I've gone juice-only for a while (being on an all time low with my energy after many years of work/negative emotional overload) - it was great especially in terms of how my body felt and how the pounds just went ;). But my energy seemed to have gone down even more. I've tried now again - but it really seems my body is calling for hot soups (I got ice cold and just couldn't take the juices anymore) and something solid, even though my mind was sooooo set on juicing only. I'd be sooo interested if there have been rebooters with similar issues and how they got their energy back? Are there times (I don't really have any medical conditions, my GP gave his ok for a juice fast, my blood test results are pretty good) when the body really cannot take a juice only reboot??? I'm so very disappointed, yet today it seems I had to finally accept that a juice-only simply doesn't seem to be right. I just wonder if that is really possible (even though I'm re-learning to listen to my body - and it seems to be pretty clear, yet my mind just doesn't want to accept it ...)? What is the best and fastest way (nutrition wise) to get my energy back? I really have changed everything I could in my life already, but for six months now it's only going downhill (the only positive thing is that despite that I could change my nutrition to mainly plant-based, nutrient dense food and juicing - and even though times are so tough I never fell back into addictions/bad food and lost weight instead ... AMAZING :) ). Maybe anyone can help or has some experience with this? Would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Carmen

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  • Stacy Kennedy

    4 years ago
    Hi Carmen, so glad you are reaching out. Here are some juice only friendly soups you can have during your reboot - broths made from pulp out of your juicer - http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/warm-up-with-juice-pulp-veggie-broth-recipe-of-the-week/ http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/thai-infused-vegetable-broths-recipe-of-the-week/ Also low energy can be due to underhydration or not enough electrolytes http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/electrify-your-reboot/ For energy, lots of veggies and some fruits - protein rich plants when you are back to eating and whole grains like quinoa. Hope you are feeling more energetic soon!
  • Billy94

    4 years ago
    When you say your bloods are ok what does that mean? Have you had your complete bloods done including thyroid function?
  • carmena

    4 years ago
    Yes, it was a pretty thorough blood test (at least I think so), for the thyroid there was nothing out of order (1.48 mU/l, doesn't say much to me but it's within normal range, which is between 0.27 and 4.20). The only thing that was a little high was the cholesterol (205), but I had this test done a few weeks ago and since then I was on a juice fast for two more weeks, so I'd expect that one to be better by now). What I find weird is that my energy goes down more instead of going up since I started juice only. I probably never juiced a lot, but it was about 1.5-2l a day and I did drink a lot. I was used to fasting before the juice fast, it just feels as if the body really cannot take a fast and reacts accordingly. But I cannot understand that really, because a juice fast is not supposed to take a lot of energy, it should give energy instead ... ??? Now I've actually heard from a friend, who also did a cleanse (just not juice fasting), that thru that his depression really came out full swing and in a way he has never recovered since. Can something like that happen, that a juice fast is actually counterproductive??? Does anyone know if there really are times where a juice fast is physically not advisable? I feel my "boat" is going under ...
  • EtherRael

    4 years ago
    Carmen I think to better understand why you are experiencing fatigue it would be important to learn what veggies/fruits you are using in your fasting regime. Also, how much water are your drinking in conjunction with your regime. Lastly, what sort of juicer are you using, is it the fast centrifugal, or a masticating one? Without knowing these things it is harder to determine what is a possible course to getting your energy back up. With that being said protein is at a premium for getting energy. So if you like avocado for instance, you could blend or food process one, and mix it slowly into your prepared juice. Another quick and easy way would to be to introduce some coconut water into your juices. Coconut water is very high on electrolytes, and also opens you up to easier hydration. Another possible solution would be to do an enema. I believe sometimes we as people do not fully get the benefits of the nutrients in our juice because our intestines are still fouled up with crap (no pun intended). A good cleansing of your intestines and colon will facilitate nutrient absorption into your blood stream, thus getting the most out of nutrient rich juices. I suggest if you are able to and open enough to the idea to go to the local drug store get an inexpensive enema bag, so epsom salt and read one of the numerous enema recipes with epsom salt on the web. This will give your lower GI a good cleansing and the villi and microvilli in the small intestines will be free of impacted waste that has been collected there. I have personally weighed myself prior to a enema and then immediately after and have noticed my weight drop as much as 6 pounds after the enema. Trust me, 6 lbs of waste that was stored in anyones intestines will effect the absorption of nutrients while juice fasting. Lastly, again without knowing what you are, or are not doing in your daily regime, finding a good non-additive whey protein to add to your juices would be a way to add some protein to your diet. Find fruits and veggies high on electrolytes and use them. Good luck and would be interested to hear answers to the questions stated above.
  • carmena

    4 years ago
    Hi Rael, thanks so much for your long response :) My veggies/fruits are pretty varied - I have a lot of seasonal, local, organic ones. I live in Northern Germany, at this time it's carrots and apples, kale, swiss chard, cabbage (red and white), brussel sprouts, celiaric root, red beet - most of those I have pretty much in unlimited quantity, since I found a really nice CSA. Additionally, I get organic spinach, tomatoes, celery, sweet potato, cucumber, broccoli, zucchini, pears, clementines, oranges - and, of course, ginger and lemons. Water was always a little bit of a "fight", since the juices are already so cold - and I was really freezing in the end. So I tried drinking more hot water with lemon/ginger or teas (e.g. roibos). I also tried making broths (see links in comment above from Stacy). There is a good chance I sometimes drank too little, but I probably was never under 4-5l a day, even though I'm not too sure about that anymore ... The thing is, though, I went into the reboot fatigued already. The very first two days were pretty ok energy wise and then on the third/fourth day it started getting worse - or simply very hard, since the energy was so little, I got soooo cold - and it was really tough to even make the juices and clean the juicer so often ... Unfortunately I have a fast centrifugal juicer, was already thinking of getting a masticating one, but cannot afford it these days. A friend might be able to lend me one, though. Enemas are no problem for me (just also taking time/energy that I have so little of these days ...) - I was used to water/tea fasts before I started juice fasting, and every time I've fasted before, that was a set thing to do. I guess I should get back into that. Thanks also so much for all your tips - I actually love avocado, will give it a try more regularly. Once I tried a smoothie with it, didn't like it too much, though - but that also might have been some of the added spices. Will try more of it. I LOVE avo in my salads, though :) I've never done any whey protein, I'm really not a fan of any powder - but, of course, I would try it. I did order some spirulina recently - but when I tried adding it to a juice I totally disliked the taste. So I'm not too sure what to do with that powder - when I was fasting before with tea/water/broth(and a little juice) I took spirulina tablets. Well - thank you again for all your time, and I hope I answered all your questions :) Cheers, Carmen Sometimes I add pineapple, mango, persimmon, melon ... I recently got some coconut water for the first time, but I couldn't really feel a difference.
  • carmena

    4 years ago
    oops, the pineapple ... and coconut water were supposed to be up at the other fruits/veggies ;)
  • EtherRael

    4 years ago
    Lol...hey thanks for getting back with such a fine and complete response. Based on your choices of fruits and veggies I do not see issue there. I wonder, if not your iron levels are low. You mention being cold often, do you have anemia? If so, are your Iron levels recorded and normal in your blood records? I suggested whey protein, because it is basically tasteless, it may thicken your juice a tiny bit, and if that is not tolerable, add a little water to thin it back out. I think the fact that you come here seeking ways to get your energy back up shows not only the community but yourself your awesome dedication to reaching your goals. I will continue to think of, or research ideas should you need them Carmen. I think the advice Stacy gave will also help you get back some energy in your journey. If you cannot continue or find it really hard to do so. Then maybe look into Paleo eating. It is a similar plan with a few differences. The main idea in that lifestyle change is no consumption of sugars, and grains. The weight loss is a bit slower to produce, but you would be getting a high amount of proteins in eating lean meat. I am not suggesting you run off and do so, but if you find that you have no other choice you may want to look into. Best of luck, and I will be checking back regularly to see how you are coming along, and us both sharing our successes along with our hurdles.
  • carmena

    4 years ago
    Iron levels would show in the hemoglobin, right? My level was ok - 13.9g/dl, that's in the lower range but normal (12-15.4) I actually think my lack of energy has a lot to do with the past years of working too much as well as lots of negative emotional things going on ... My batteries seem to be sooo empty that it just takes much longer than I expected. But I also think that nutrition can do a lot to speed up the process - and I've only focussed on that for about two months now, so I still have hope :) Thanks also for the Paleo thought - I'm back to eating by now and the Eat to Live concept helps me pretty well in general. I certainly have to find my own way now and the most exciting thing since the beginning of this journey is the fact how my body has already changed - taste buds and all, especially that I was able to get back in touch with my body. Can't even remember when that was the case last ... Thanks for your encouraging words and support - I also wish you all the best for your journey. Starting so close to Christmas - good you you! Cheers, Carmen
  • EtherRael

    4 years ago
    Great Job! Sounds like you have done all the necessary things to keep going down the right track Carmen. Make sure you take time for the mental side of things too. All parts must function as a whole, and if you are stressed or maybe anxious about things in your life then that would be the next step to completing total mind and body synergy. As far as Xmas is concerned, yes I have for the last 30+ years ate heartily during the season, this one I am giving myself the GIFT to abstain. It is one day in the 365 days and although special in many ways, it doesn't give me a free pass to just fall off and eat. I know the days leading up to Xmas and New Years will present temptations, but again If I cannot be strong now, then I surely will find other excuses along the way to cheat myself of the fullest experience of the Reboot. Namaste!
  • carmena

    4 years ago
    I actually found a very interesting talk: Dr Mercola interviews Cherie Calbom about juicing (Part 1/3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGyf27CocxM Cherie Calbom healed herself of many diseases, one of them chronic fatigue. I don't have that, but I'm still chronically fatigued ;) Anyway, it took her three months of loads of juicing to get healed - and, what nobody had told her or me for that matter: It can first get worse before it gets better. So I think that's what might be happening. She also recommends at least 16 ounces of green juice daily - better even 1 quart. I'll aim for that now while I'll try to gather enough strength to really go off sugar and a lot of grains. I'm looking forward to after Christmas, then there's not so much temptation around ;) Good on you, Rael, for the gift to abstain!!! I had a quart of juice today as well as a blended raw soup - but I also had some coffee and sugar - and felt accordingly BAD, not in my mind, but BODY - and I'm excited to actually feel it and see the difference. So I'll keep trying to aim for that gift, too - and as long as it will take me to get there I'll focus on ADDING MORE AND MORE OF THE GOOD STUFF, the healing juices, especially the leafy greens. And I'll focus on the fact that some health problems simply need time and NOT GIVING UP! I know I will get there - step by step :) Cheers - juice on :)
  • Stacy Kennedy

    4 years ago
    Hi Carmen, did you have your Vitamin D tested? Livnig in Northern Germany this could be low and is very connected to fatigue. Glad you are experiementing with more green juice, avocado, coconut water and seeing if you start to get better as time goes forward. FOr protein, besides spirulina you could try a pea protein powder if you didn't want to use whey or add chia seeds which also have omega-3s. Keep us posted!

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